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 killercup : good to see you writing some english again, kris! hoping for some updates soon since more and more people are leaving zooomr :(
1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Russ G : Likewise having Avatar issues and done everything I can think of :)....Morning all 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Trevor Carpenter : Welcome back, K. I too am having avatar issues. And, Yes, I've done all the recommended things. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: .. is that the colors of each gallery - i view the entire gallery of the user in thumbnail view, im from the tropics & the colors all very different! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: @ celine, thanx for the info! i was just wondering and thought its the time zone again :) you have a fabulous gallery! one thing useful in zooomr... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Graffiti: Kristopher said he's looking into it, so hopefully he'll get it fixed. Thanks for all those faves and comments, by the way. :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 graffiti: and the first thing i did was clear cache, exit firefox, login again, etc. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: hi kris & celine, i did have similar problem with creating an avatar. in fact my avatar isnt yet up, i created it last evening, the first thing ... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : And here -- http://tinyurl.com/2so7fy 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Celine C : Here's her Zipline posts about it -- http://tinyurl.com/2n3737 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Celine C : She did, if I remember right. I think she was trying to change her avatar. Others said they had problems, too. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 kristopher : @Celine, really? I didn't know that was going on -- did she refresh her browser's cache? I'll look into it -- Karen, please contact me! kris.tate@gmail 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Hey, Kristopher, while you're around -- are you aware of the missing avatar problem for some folks like persnicketydame? 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 kristopher : @scherbi, arigatou-gozaimasu! :) I've been saying that a lot lately. And I mean it too -- thank-you for your continued support. Say hi to TH for me :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 scherbi : @kris. Bitte schön! I'm at the end of my time zone for today. Got to get some rest before I go meet Thomas for the Photowalk in NYC later today.gnite! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : @scherbi, thank-you for you generous donation! It's great to to be able to talk again -- the timezone hurts too :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Phat Photographer : Just joined the developer group. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 scherbi : There you have it, Kris. You've come back to the Zipline on a generous day for me. $100 on the way. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Oooh, I would sincerely love to be able to edit (and delete?) posts. Can't wait for that to go live. (see, like now :) ) 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 kristopher : @Celine C, oh, we have an internal build that can do that kind of stuff ;) Things have been happening here folks. Give us time! :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : For technical discussion, please join our google group: http://groups.google.com/group/zooomr-dev 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Whoa, your link is fixed now. How'd you do that? 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Celine C : Unless you want us to go toady, here's the corrected link: http://www.zooomr.com/go/pro/today/ 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Phat Photographer : Is there something we can do to help?
1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Phat Photographer : The question I have and have asked before, is if there are those of us who are technical and work in software engineering.... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : @scherbi, hey friend. Donations are always welcome and appreciated. Every little bit. http://www.zooomr.com/go/pro/today/ 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : I am surprised you didn't get any support from other companies. Seeing many other startups getting money from people who believe in them. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : After the first of the month I can throw in some more money. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 scherbi : Thanks for the updates, Kris. If the financial situation is serious, I'm sure all us pros could afford a little more to keep our beloved Zooomr alive. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Thank you, Kristopher. Your update is appreciated. Keep 'em coming. :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Dawson : Thanks Kris, means a lot. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : .. Planned for next month. Flickr may have 500+ boxes, but I'm glad to be able to share my life and progress with you guys. Thanks for your support :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : Financial backing to even keep your photos online. It got that bad. Japan has saved this company. More Web Fixes and Additions are planned for next... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : Guys, a lot of this time has been spent training other people on this system. That takes time. Also, Without japan, Zooomr wouldn't have the ... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : Reading the new stuff now... Give me a second. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 prophead : what I mean is that the site as it is here and now is close...to what it could/should be 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : Like I said, lets not say no funds, until we see some financial reports, I wonder. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Fogview : @prophead, They may be close but without communication, how do we know? I support Zooomr and want to believe but "This is no way to run an airlines" 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 prophead : man, they're sooo close. seems like a bad loop, cant fix bug because no funding, no funding, because of bugs... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Fogview : I will stick around until January before I decide to head back to Flickr. Zooomr "could" be a great site if they showed they cared about their users. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Fogview : I've been pushing for open communication from TH and Kris for months. November was for bug fixing but I can't tell that much has been fixed. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 TravelingRoths : Carlos: I think that's a great idea. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: @ trevor, yeah, im stuck with my avatar too. but im impressed with the avatar tool, nice stuff! im willing to wait though! ( im not yet pro) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : if you are all ok with it I'd like to put this to TH and KT in case they did not follow it. only through these dialogues they can see better 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : Well I will always talk to you, and I'm sure others will, because the things everyone complains about, is a major issue that needs fixed. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : I'm not sure if I want to protest. I rose a stink weeks ago, and it took days before anyone talked to me again. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : @Trevor Maybe Zooomr needs to be protested against, it seems though by created huge threads don't work. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : As am I. Gonna focus on the good stuff -- photos & people. The rest will do whatever it will. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Trevor Carpenter : Sorry for the lack in clarity. I'm done with my Zooomr bashing. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: @Jonathan: looking at the group stats I 'd estimate maybe 1000, prob. 250 paying, sums up to 2500 Euros a year. Huge sum to run a professional service 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : Well it seems the peak is done: http://www.zooomr.com/photos/dawson/3912356/
But it may be the holidays. @Trevor What are you done with? 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : OK, I'm done. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : does anyone have any idea of the number of zooomr users? it's hard to get an impression because there is asmall set of core users 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Dawson : I bash and comment! ;-) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jono Brennan : I'll still be sticking around here for a while - maybe just not uploading as many photos (even if I could) 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Geez, doesn't anybody post or comment about photos around here anymore. Enough griping about the site, eh. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jono Brennan : The whole marketplace stuff was supposed to be a revenue generator but seems to have been left on the back burner - bigger fish to fry? 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : @Trevor Same with Karen and a lot others... and that hasn't been fixed. That is actually a new issue. There is more problems than solutions. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: That "Japan is the whore crying", a fact is the US doesn't even offer the core technology to what Kris is doing over in Japan. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : Oh, and BTW, my avatar still hasn't updated. It's still blank. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I don't understand what you mean, anlan. What BS? 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Dawson : But is all the advertising money and PRO account money really all that going to developing Zooomr? 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: Holy moly what a sentimental bullshit. The curse of evangalisation I guess ;-)))
What about casting some votes in that great community? 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: some small time bugs need to be ironed out too - like thumbnails not appearing, sometimes uploading is an issue, juploader times out :( 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 graffiti: im new to zooomr & love it, am evaluating it though but i see way too many 404 errors. there's an urgent need stability. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : Go Trevor! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : That's it, Japan is the mistriss. The whore.
We're left here, home with Kristopher's kids. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I'm not asking for miracles, & I know Zooomr needs financial backing, which I totally support. Just throw us a bone. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Gary H : wow, long discussion, great dialog. We all love Zooomr. Zooomr doesn't seem to love us anymore. Zooomr found a more hip love in Japan. :-( 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : I don't know about transparency but, regular communication and support to keep existing features working sure isn't asking too much. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : The community is awesome, as are the photos. I love that aspect. But transparency isn't asking too much, is it? 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Wolfman-K : I don't think that is going to change, but I agree the core users need to be supported and kept in the loop. :( 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : the business plan that we were told was marketplace revenues and averts on non-pro accounts....it's one thing doing what's needed, it's another not te 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Wolfman-K : I just joined and I picked Zooomr over smug mug and flickr because of the community of people that appreciate the art of photography. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Anlan, I understand the financial need, & I don't dispute it. What I am asking for is information from Kris as to what's going on on this end. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 bye: Celine Zooomr is a company, at least a wanna be company, not a kindergarten. The only way to get money is to go iMode in Japan, bec. web is for free 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : ...so now many are leaving because whilst it's free, they provided support and then have felt left behind as unimportant without being told of the pla 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jonathan Ward : ...it was never apparent at that time that the site would go to japanese mobiles, it was supposed to be for the core users and that's why it got so mu 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jonathan Ward : @anlan there were a lot of people who provided a lot of support, financial, verbal, whatever, to zooomr as it went trhu upgrades.... 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 bye: Turn Zooomr into a "mature" company and charge 50$ a year works with some hundred thousand subscribers. Go figure ... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : anlan, because we were here first? Isn't Zooomr a photo sharing site? When folks have trouble uploading photos, etc., that kinda negates the idea. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Dawson : @anlan The reason the web Zooomr needs fixed is because more people use it, and people need a good first impression. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: Why should he fix the web stuff first, if it's for free? Even the pro accounts are basically for free. Imode subscribers have to pay in any way ... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I just want to know what's going on. TH can only do so much, it's Kristopher we need to hear from. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 TravelingRoths : You've got to serve your revenue source first, or everything else becomes a moo point. You can't ignore the rest either, and that's the huge challenge 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : Well the mobile version is only for Japan, and the web version is used WAY more, so that should be a priority. Fix the most used things first. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I think Kris' employees work on the Japan mobile stuff, and not on the rest of the stuff. I could be wrong. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 MaltPhoto : @dawson: not sure. But I keep seeing Thomas make reference to the fact that Kris is only one person. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 MaltPhoto : I'm not opposed to a two man company either, but I think there's just too much work to be done at this point., too many areas that need attention. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Dawson : I thought Kris had employees? It sometimes seems he doesn't... because things take long to get fixed, or updates come very seldom for a beta website. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : I'm not against a 2man company but it is a fact that it is not coping well at the moment and some modifications are required up there 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : regardless of the lacks, we DO need TO KNOW soon what we will have in the near future and have a more transparent management of the site 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Dawson : @Celine Thats why I love Zooomr, because my photos get so many views and faves very fast. Flickr takes days sometimes. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : it makes you think whether a comunity (like zooomr's) could set up a site by themselves in a co-op? 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jonathan Ward : i have to agree that the community feels right on here. somehow local, and the types of photographers here. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 MaltPhoto : What they've done in Japan, needs to happen in the US. Japan will have it's own priorities, but they need to leverage that for non-japan markets. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 MaltPhoto : The funny thing is, I just recently came back after being ticked off after the upgrade. I think this needs to be more than a 2 man operation. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : For the few that are interested in a Zipline like app, for use with Flickr, look at http://photophlow.com 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : What's weird is that months ago I secretly wanted to be an official Zooomr Evangelist. I wished I could convince TH to consider me...if the time came. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : I too am hanging around for the community. Without Zipline, I'd have left weeks ago. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I just would like to know what's going on, what's being worked on in the non-mobile market. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Trevor Carpenter : Hey TH! Noticing a common thread? 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I hate playing the Flickr game, having to submit photos to groups. With Zooomr & Zipline, I know my photos will be viewed. That's important to me. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 peppeg : i feel the same, some people here are important to me, some pics too... but i'm not in love with zooomr :'( exif, photo pool, upload, profile... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 sfmike22 : It struck me the other; day using Zooomr feels like sipping coffee in your neighborhood cafe. Flickr feels like walking the aisles at Costco... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : loose the great community that has been created and supporting them so far. I honestly hope they can do the former 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : my humble opinion is that zooomr has reached a critical point in its e-life in which they have to consolidate as a mature/responsable company or...... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 henrikj : Russel and Jonathan: my thoughts exactl 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : it's a lot about only promising what you will or can deliver, and quickly. people would be less frustrated if they had only promised small things... 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Russ G : Think we are all agreeing...We love the community that has built up, just get frustrated at the basics failing sometimes and slow progress 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 persnicketydame : I also love the community. I do find myself frustrated with the little things though. No user icon suddenly or having reattach tags. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: You're right Jonathan, for the very same reason I am not pro .... as for verbal updates, the US hasn't really a 3G infrastructure & in EU it's B2B. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Carlos : I've always defended this place and would hate to see it go down hill. hope the CEO notices that there is a vacuum in the ranks... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I'm here for the community, too, but would really, really like an update on what's being worked on regarding the photo end of Zooomr. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jono Brennan : and also on Tagmee: http://www.tagmee.com/Photos/jonobass 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : ..ause they felt that kris and thom were working towards them and felt it fair. now after this the site is moving away from many of them... 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jono Brennan : ditto: http://www.flickr.com/people/jonobass/ 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : so many people who were here at the start are leaving...i guess it grates that many of them, myself included, willingly paidfor what they had free bec 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 tomh : Zooomr needs work in the feature department, but the people are great. I find myself returning mostly for the community interaction. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Russ G : Ooops that doesn't work :S Try this if interested http://www.flickr.com/people/rgronow/
1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Russ G : Not planning on leaving Zooomr either but if anyone wants to add me over of Flickr if your there feel free. Russ G :) 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 bye: Chris, Dave: would you feel less abandoned with a help desk? That's what you get on working, commercial sites ;-) ... just not for ten bucks a year.
1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jono Brennan : Tagmee also looks an outside bet 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jono Brennan : It does seem like Zooomr's future is Japan & cellphones - not for anyone with a DSLR! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: Doesn't seem to be a camera issue, if I process a jpg with gimp, I've no cam info, I have if I process a raw with Raw Therapy and convert it to jpg. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 TravelingRoths : Duck: I agree. There still is a great sense of community here. I don't plan on leaving Zooomr in the foreseeable future. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Duck Brown : The main thing keeping me here at this point is the people.
1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 TravelingRoths : The upload problems are my biggest beef. My geotag data goes only sometimes, and camera info never. . . when the uploads are working at all. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Chris Moewes : Group pools,profile editing,these are critical (imho) to a social site.But worse yet is all the issues around exif/iptc tags and failed uploads 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Chris Moewes : I am finding myself also in the loveloss camp.Despite trying to be active in groups and posting,it feels like basic things aren't getting done 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 TravelingRoths : André: Kris took off for Japan months ago, to conquer that market, and that's cool, but the rest of us are left "in the dark". Just keep us informed. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: I still don't get it Dave, lots of stuff doesn't work, but what has it to do with Asia. Except for the iMode integration, I don't see anything Asian 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 TravelingRoths : This place was very dynamic and exciting once, even if things didn't always go smoothly. Now it's like not-Asia is on "Ignore". 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: SmugMug''s most popular photo communities:
Nr.1 Military
puke .... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Trevor Carpenter : Free trial? Cool! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 rleong101 : I know a friend who uses SmugMug ... very cool looking site. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Russ G : Yeah I signed up for the free trial of SmugMug too, just to see what it's like 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Trevor Carpenter : You know, I've been very interested in SmugMug these past few weeks. Scoble covered them too. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: different, which is what Kris in his juvenile cockiness doesn't see. But I think Dave thought of something else. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 bye: Jonathan, the first part sounds good, but to believe one could export the business model is a pipe dream. Business models in Europe and the US are ... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Pazzer : lack of communication, lack of promised features, lack of features that existed before, permanent beta mode :-(( Smugmug is looking more attractive 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Pazzer : I'm pretty cheesed off with it to be honest. I'm sure I have the same issues as everyone else namely: 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : i guess they hope to get a secure footing in japan to help finance non-asian expansion..problem is most original users were in the latter category
1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 bye: How would an emphasis on the non-Asian market look like? Having success in Japan is one thing, exporting it another. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Russ G : And Flickr adding comprehensive stats doesn't help either. 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 TravelingRoths : The de-emphasis on the non-Asian market is a little disheartening. 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 Jonathan Ward : features are one thing..not knowing anything about the state of affairs is another..the blog needs to be used more 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Jonathan Ward : we could do with some more verbal updates from kris really, it's the not knowing what is going on that makes i hard 1 year, 6 months ago [Zipfox]
 Trevor Carpenter : I hear an echo in here... 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
 stockwerk23 : It feels like my love for zooomr is fading away slowly... :(
I guess i need new features (at least the promised)! 1 year, 6 months ago [Web]
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