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 SaxMan : Like I said, I'm no longer participating...let's talk about photos. I'm not going to change your mind, nor you, mine. So I will not engage further. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Gary H : Arresting a couple of journalist who got in the way or in the street is one thing. Arresting 19 just for being there is another, and very wrong. 1 year, 2 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : Thanks, celine. yes, and the right to assemble, and the right to move freely, and to communicate with the world. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I think slowdncr means we can protest because we have freedom of speech. 1 year, 2 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : Sax; it is the right place because the police took the camera cards from the press and arrested them, an extreme breech of their rights. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 SaxMan : Anyway, this is not the proper forum...let's talk about photos. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 SaxMan : There are limits. The Constitution does not guarantee right of protest. Go read it, check for yourself. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 SaxMan : Damn, what am I thinking...Chicago! Ha! St. Paul is in Demo hands. Also, press credentials do not allow unfettered access, or permit unlawfulness.... 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Plus, the Constitution guarantees the right to protest., not to disperse. That's all the permit anyone needs in America. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Uh, SaxMan, the demonstrations were in St. Paul, not Chicago, and press has every right to stay and not disperse. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 SaxMan : Uh, they had a permit, they went over and wouldn't disperse. Then they wouldn't clear the streets. Arrests are justified. BTW Chicago is in Demo hands 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Gary H : odd, USA today barely mentions the arrests, only says there are fewer than NYC in '04. 1 year, 2 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : ... Nineteen media workers have also been jailed." 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : ... against the crowd. Overall, more than 800 people have been arrested at anti-RNC protests in the Twin Cities this week... 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : " up to 400 people were arrested in a protest near the State Capitol, about a mile from the convention site. Police used teargas and flash grenades... 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Gary H : thanks for the link. I don't get a chance to listen to that show, and when I do I get angry. I miss the Bill of Rights. 1 year, 2 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : I'm sorry, that's democracynow.org 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Gary, go to YouTube and search RNC demonstrations, or to democracynow.com 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Gary H : I didn't hear about the press or photogs getting arrested. It is a sad indicator of how messed up things have gotten in 7+ years 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Gary, yes, and the forceable arrest of the press, including taking their camera cards. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : ... and a crime against the freedoms promised to photojournalism that it deserves discussion. Our Renegade group should be all over it. 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
 Gary H : which part? arresting people exercising free speech? 1 year, 2 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : I ususally try to stay away from politics in a public forum, but what went down on Monday in St. Paul, MN was such a breech of the US Constitution... 1 year, 2 months ago [Web]
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