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 Wolfman-K : you say that is if flirting is a crime kjell ( come on I set you up... take it home) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kjell eric: it was about photo thieves-fyi 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kjell eric: because it got twisted to "flirtiness" 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 David Chu : ...is it because he has the newest DSLR? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 metrognome : umm...no...that's not it. :) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 David Chu : It's because we love you. I think. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : hahahah!! I love that any thread I am involved with goes on for days. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : Would Wolfman's appearance not be dependent on the waning and wxing of the moon? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 David Chu : Wolfman, it would be impossible for you to look innocent. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : *trying to look innocent* 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : why is it that the racey threads always involve wolfie? ;p great pics uploaded today guys, really beautiful stuff. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Can a wolf ever really be tamed? 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 Wolfman-K : hell, I probably still am... it's just lucky I am contained ;) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : LOL Thanks BJ but actually i'm taken, I'm just admitting to being ignorant. I would have been one of those boys back in the day ;) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : could be... i've been known to be completely wrong before ;) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 proudmommy : I thought he was referring to the "aw, forget it, you're just going to sneak out" line from metrognome? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : think he means "dads are never that easy on boys.. that date dad's lil' girl" 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 proudmommy : True that, wolfman... do you have boys? Can you or ANYONE tell me why that is?? Shouldn't kids be treated equally? ;) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : ignorant boy checking in.... and wow Dad's are never that easy on boys ;) 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I always knew you were a softy at heart, metrognome. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 metrognome : life's not fair, young lady! ...aw, forget it. you're just going to sneak out in the middle of the night anyway. but watch your sassin', missy! 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Ah, gotcha. That's why I use smileys (a lot)... I'm never sure if my sense of humor comes through. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 metrognome : you're grounded. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : Perhaps we should just let this run its course. I would hate to see folks get mad at each over it. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 Malarky : Looks like i'm late to the party... this is all a bit silly isn't it? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 metrognome : i'd like to point out that the situation is already being handled by all necessary parties. everyone's contued involvement is not needed nor helpful 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : calling someone onto the carpet, so to speak, should be handled directly w/ the person. don't think this is the best way to do it...but what do i know 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : incorrect. but i don't want to be constantly questioned every time i post a new photo. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : i do agree that the use of "examples" in a public forum may be a bad idea. the use of "how to do it right" examples, maybe..... 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : beyond that, parties would have to speak w/ him directly. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : & honestly, eric was pretty offended on how it all went down. i dont think he's feeling all that cooperative at the moment. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : will just be a constant reminder of controversy. :( 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : i dont know about anything anymore, really. a part of me feels like i should just go bcause my being here 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : @jenifer: i hope you didn't think i was referencing eric by my comments. I know he's been active here & am sure if available he'd speak up for himself 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : disagree w/ this format. eric hasnt responded bcause he's on a plane for a biz trip. i'm upset, obviously. but im not going 2 sling my husbnd in pub 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : no matter ther outcome of this, there is no dignity for either side holding the debate in public. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : i cant speak for eric, & certainly wouldnt try. ive stayed quiet bcause i dont want2 b drawn into public mudslinging. i still 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : I know if it were my image in question I'd want to be contacted directly by Kris or those questioning it. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 petdetective: thanks everyone 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Wolfman-K : I agree, in hoping its a misunderstanding, but I'm not sure this should be handled in such a public forum. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 ManWithCamera : @petdetective: see the envelope at the top of the page? click on that 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : seems more like those using images as their own are rather silent and simply post photos 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : it seems to me (just my observation) that those who use others images as their own aren't as "active" in the community or discussions like these 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 petdetective: is there a way to send someone on this site a private email? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 ManWithCamera : I also hope that this is merely a misunderstanding. Jenifer and Eric are both very talented photographers and their work is rightfully admired. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : I too hope that this is a misunderstanding, but the more I look into it, the more sad I become. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : @Celine C; I'm with you regarding Jenifer and Eric. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 Celine C : I admire the photos both Jenifer and Eric have posted, so I'm hoping this is just a misunderstandng of some sort. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 Celine C : The other person has another shot of the same model (including clothing) on their stream. http://flickr.com/photos/koenigspinguin/2717487250/ 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 kristopher : slowdncr, we cannot do anything about those images without a valid complaint in the form of a DMCA Takedown notice. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 slowdncr : Well then while you're purging other person's material on Zooomr, how about the hundreds of plagiarized images posted by hung? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : That's what makes this a community issue. I still have not received the original files from Eric, so I might have to purge that shot soon. :/ 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : I think there is a bigger problem here: If Eric isn't the owner of that photo and claimed that it was Jenifer in the pic, he is lying to us all. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : Update: I got the DMCA take-down notice from the user on flickr claiming that he is the legal owner. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 proudmommy : my thoughts exactly, flwrgrl. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 flwrgrl : This must be awful for Jenifer and Eric and I hope they don't end up leaving over it. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 flwrgrl : I agree that this was handled poorly. I myself jumped to conclusions yesterday without knowing the facts. That is unfair to all parties involved. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 joeschmoe96 : ya'll are making me scared. Do i need to check flickr for any of mine now? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 metrognome : responsible action would be to notify primary parties and leave it to the rightful owner to decide how to proceed. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 metrognome : agree with GAT's suggestion as well. it is not up to us to act as judge, jury, & executioner. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 proudmommy : I TOTALLY agree with GAT. Public humiliation is not the best way to handle things. And David, things are not always what they seem! 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : kiloranbrae is me on flickr 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 GAT : We did discuss it in private 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 GAT : My original another photographer retook the image and acknowledges that 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 GAT : Could we agree that in future where a concern over copying that the etiquette would be to zmail the individuals concerned 1st. Perhaps copying kris in 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 kristopher : Jenifer, I respect your position. I can't act on these things alone; We're a community here at Zooomr, so it's best that we grow together. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : bottom line, i support him. what he chooses to do now is up to him. but i would have expected it handled differently. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : i'm not saying he can't show you the original file. i'm saying the way it was handled so public was wrong w/o getting all facts involved first. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : jenifer, so what are you saying? If Eric cannot show me the original file as proof, then logic tells me that it was stolen. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : @kris - i read your email, but i honestly don't think it will change anything. i support him, and someone should have come to one of us directly 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 shane : my apologies if i have jumped to any conclusions, but something is going on. either this one is a fake, or the other one is a fake. one of them is. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 David Chu : " not everything is as it is presented or appears." Can you tell me what happened? :\ 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : shane, right now, my answer to you would not be all that productive. not everything is as it is presented or appears. jerk 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 shane : http://www.zooomr.com/photos/shanegrant/5448147/ 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 shane : @jenifer what is ridiculous? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : okay - i'm REALLY upset about all of this. this is ridiculous. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : shane, you're right -- the timestamps favor "koenigspinguin" 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : The thing is that Eric is claiming that it's Jenifer in the pic, so if that photo doesn't belong to him, what does Jenifer really look like? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 shane : looks like the one on flickr was posted first? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kristopher : I noticed this today: http://zooomr.com/photos/ericjacobsen/5439951/ and http://flickr.com/photos/koenigspinguin/2678465214/ 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : zoooomr's functuality much better. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : it was kinda why i liked my other site, bcause i can create sets that are private, and then link people into them. no random people. but i like 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : get worked up over it, bcause i tell myself I know, my friends know, & if push comes to shove, i hold the negative. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : @belljar - it's been more than 1 person, i used to have an account there that had over 10k photos on it. i didnt do anything, i try not to let myself 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : that is flattery! but it sucks that you couldn't submit it for your class work. :( 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : Frustrating when pictures appear high up in Discover and not that person's work. Would be good to have a system of RESPONSIBLE reporting. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 GAT : yes and he was complimentary in his comments. I however was unable to submit the image for my course work. 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 slowdncr : The Zooomr member that frustrates me is hung. They consistently post stock images. I spot a cool pic in Discovery, open it, and sure enough... 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : better than the blatant stealing ive seen of my images on there. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : http://flickr.com/photos/fascinatinglight/2511279537/ his version and then mine http://www.zooomr.com/photos/garetht/4882623/ 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : my friend dsn't knw the person, but looking thru her flickr, it's all pics frm other people, which she states as not hers, but doesn't directly credit 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 kjell eric: gat that sounds flattering that someone would go to that much trouble, but also dissappionting if it is not a landmark 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : ive kind of done that b4, have been inspired by a certain shot & have tried to create the same look - mostly flwrs and scenery & sometimes places. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : Although I was uncomfortable with that I did have to concede the other image was better then mine and he had credited my image. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : I had a situation on Flickr where someone set out to recreate an image I had taken i.e. seen my picture gone to same spot and photographed ......... 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : Think in that situation I would email the person concerned. There might be a reason or a connection between the two photographers and the subject. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : to say it wasn't hers & that she edited it, but she didn't give credit to my friend. 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 jenifer : it happens to me all the time. last nite i found one of eric & i holding hands that my friend took. at least the person who lifted it was nice 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 proudmommy : That's too bad. Why would anyone want to do that?? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 GAT : could you zmail me as well 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 dbcohen : sent zmail 1 year, 5 months ago [Zipfox]
 flwrgrl : which one?? 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
 dbcohen : So I found a photo on here that seems to be lifted from someone on Flickr. What to do... 1 year, 5 months ago [Web]
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